Rolling Get an UpLula magazine loader. Have fun. I had the same problem. Very cool stuff. And if you happen to have another pre-loaded cylinder with you, PRESTO! I weighs a ton, has a 9 inch barrel and is damn accurate. I shot ASM 58's in my early years. Be like suing Ruger if they called one of their 1911 models "Old Slabsides", or Uberti over their new 1873 "Thumbuster". A lot of their workers did not want to move out of town where all the gun makers were located, so ASM lost a lot of their talent which started their quality problems. Thanks. ASM attempted to revive its percussion revolvers with limited success and finally closed its doors several years back. Java, from Plymouth MA. My dad of course saw them when they were new. Mounted Shooting 1873 Rifle Cleaning Instructions. PIETTA AND I SHOOT 30 GRAINS OF PYRODEX FFFG AND IT JUST WILL MOVE MY HAND CAN I GO A LITTLE HIGHER ON MY GRAINS I AM A FIRST TIME SHOOTER OF THE CAP AND BALL REVOLVER THINK YOU FOR YOUR TIME PAUL. Copyright 1995-2023 eBay Inc. All Rights Reserved. Not part of Uberti in any wayexcept by marriage. Recently heard a story about ASM, that they moved out of the big city to a smaller town in the country. The .44 ball over 35 grains is enough to kill a horse. ROFL, So nice to read about black powder stuff here. It blew LaHood through a windowyumm. WOODEN GRIPS ARE NEAR MINT 45 Caliber; 85% blue, very good bore, very good stock, 10'' barrel, REPRODUCTION KENTUCKY PERCUSSION PISTOL. But to me, it just seems that a black powder gun pushing a round ball does not have the ballistics to routinely be lethal on a whitetail deer. thereof. The strong Remington frame made it fairly easy to convert the pistol over to metallic cartridge use, as firearms technology rapidly advanced after the Civil War. Used, shows wear and handling, small dings in the area of the cylinder pin end. Walnut stock. Got a pair of Ubertis, one stainless and one blue (Thunder and Lightning). Any gun made before Jan 1 1999 i is an antique gun, and requires no involvement of an FFL holder. Plain walnut grips. WebRemington Rolling Block; Remington Lee; 1865 Springfield (1st Allin) 1866 Springfield (2nd Allin) 1868-70 Springfield (50/70) 1873-1889 Springfield (45/70) 1873 Winchester; 1885 Winchester; 1895 Winchester Lee Navy; Winchester Hotchkiss; Winchester Model 61; Winchester Model 62; Winchester Model 86; Winchester Model 90/06; Winchester if you wish you can contact your local ATF to find your answer. View Item in Catalog Lot #242 (Sale Order: 241 of 708) Sold for: $120.00 to F****b "Tax, Shipping & Handling and Internet Premium We raise cattle, same thing. Bluing shows wear and scratches overall with a turn ring and wear to the notches on the cylinder. I have a LeMat replica, fine in every way except the rammer being a piss poor design, and the two-mode hammer not working well in shotgun position. JavaScript is disabled. Safety pins, safety notches, po-TAY-tow, po-TOT-owe. Thank God I had my Reminton. The 1858 is the modern name for the Remington New Model Army/Navy revolvers, which were introduced circa 1863. Bore and chambers in very good+ $395.00 Add to Cart Compare Pietta Remington Percussion - C55996 They make the guns for different companies and the workmanship is terrible. I have developed a way of cleaning and loading, that if followed EXACTLY, will give YOU the same degree of Reliability as I have! Armi San Marco was a family owned gun maker in Brescia, Italy. For shooting comfortable loads for target shooting I use 20g black-powder followed with 20g of Cream of Wheat then the ball and finally the lard-beeswax. I've heard the stories of ASM's being of poor quality, however these two .45's are very nice. Very nice article on the 1858 Remington. The new value of an ARMI SAN MARCO pistol has fallen ($12.95) dollars over the past 12 months to a price of $286.19 . That's your build date. -drop safety-Hammer- - Z52780, A. Uberti & C. 1872 Open Top Definitely a 50-yard whitetail gun. Ihave been thinking about getting one of these for a while, I have a question. I might be wrong about this! A friend of mine purchased a 1874 Sharps repo made by them a few years back for a Christmas gift for his son. The greatest going away gift I ever got in my 25 years in the Army was the Uberti 1873 with my name and callsign engraved on the barrel that the guys in my battalion gave me when I left command. I have been cleaning black powder revolvers for almost 50 years. All of the Pietta replicas I have are fantastic, and they were all sourced from the same supplier (see last paragraph). I have a Pietta with after-market Tresso nipples that are just slightly smaller and regular caps fall off, but Dynamil Nobel 1075s fit perfectly. While some parts just dropped right in and worked, the replacement hands needed the most work. I have a used stainless Army San Paolo 1858 Remington that I got off Gunbroker several years ago and still havent fired it. Second, every forum has those who will not allow an absence of knowledge interfere with their conveyance of information. Of course, I didn't run them like the hot shoes. The Remington-Beals as it was called back then came into its own with the onset of the Civil War. FEMALE PEOPLE, Riding into the sunset in a living room near you, Tusco Long Riders, Brown Township Regulators, Firelands Peacemakers, Ohio Valley Vigilantes, Indiana Black Powder Guild, Bayou Bounty Hunters, Deadwood Marshals, Border Vigilantes, Damascus Wildlife Rangers, Thurmont Rangers, Westshore Posse, Monocacy Illregulars, Potomac Rangers, Cedar Valley Vigilantes, Granite City Gunslingers, Chorro Valley Regulators, Home of The John Wayne Shoot-Out now The SASS Western Regional, The ORIGINAL Pozo River Vigilance Committee, Tejas Caballeros, Texican Rangers, Green Mountain Regulators, Plum Creek Shooting Society, Chorro Valley Regulators, Pozo River Vigilence Committee, piru hole in wall, deadwood boys and ojai desperados, Firelands Peacemakers,Tusco Long Riders, Ohio Valley Vigilantes, Sandusky Regulators, Brown Twp. Armi San Marco was a family owned gun maker in Brescia, Italy. Armi San Marco is still making guns and they are known for making guns with bad workmanship. Web44 Caliber; very good+ bore, good grips, 7.75'' barrel, Pietta .44 caliber Remington 1858 style six shot black powder revolver in nickel plate finish. WebThis conversion cylinder assembly will convert your 1858 Remington ASM, Uberti or Pietta steel or brass .44 cap and ball revolver to fire .22 cartridges. I am sure it will do for deer. WW II RIBBON USS SAN MARCOS LSD-25 NAVY*EMBROIDERED POLO SHIRT/SWEAT/JACKET. All three of my BP weapons took the same size cap. Type: Revolver. Colt .44 with 30 grain. For effective ignition, a ball has to fit tightly in the cylinder, and consequently a bit is shaved off when loading. With .40 grains of Black Powder I get about 400 ft-lbs of Energy. I have three Sheriffs Models, and consider them SO GOOD, I carry one every day for Self-Defense! View more auctions here. Some were mentioning movies in which the Remington 1858 made an appearance. The book calls for using 3Fg, on the can it will read as FFFg. On clening, dont whatever you do mention water, on a web site run by some guy named John Fuhring. I was told by the Chiappa folks, they changed the Armi Sport name to Chiappa because of this confusion. back for a Christmas gift for his son. I took 2 quick shots at about 70 yards (yes, too far, I know) one round hit its head, the deer dropped. Left grip has a chip of wood missing at the pin on the back edge. Range, of course, is quite limited. My neighbor has a deer lease with a very comfortable raised blind. Many find that the higher loads are less accurate. He knew the early production were quality gun and at some point there was a move and or change of management and quality went in the crapper. New in Box-never fired. This was a very common happening in the field. Fine quality pistol, exhibits high standards of BORE IS GOOD 44 Caliber; 80% blue, good bore, very good grips, 8'' barrel, REPRODUCTION NEW MODEL ARMY REVOLVER IN VERY GOOD CONDITION. Exc condition, appears unfired. A few years ago the trigger just wore out. There was no penetration, but the deer died where I hit it. Of course, only shoot from distances from which you know you make clean, ethical kills. Visit Our Site and Get Your Favorite Actors or Actresses Outfits now at the best prices. A) Armi San Marco 1858 New Model Percussion Revolver. Web* Armi San Marco, copy of Remington Model 1858, .44 cal, s/n 61367, black powder revolver. Not that theres anything wrong with that. Great article. WebBuy a Armi San Marco 1858 Remington Replica Italian made .44 Remington 1858 Replica by manufacturer Armi San Marco. In my experience, the fit and finish of the Italian replicas is not so much who makes them as who imports them and sells them in the US. I started out with 10 to 15 grains, then worked up. Some folks claim doing so helps prevent chain fires, or all the cylinders going off at once. View more auctions here. He knew the early production were quality gun and at some point there was a move and or change of management and quality went in the crapper. Thus making it almost impossible for a cap to fall into the workings of the gun. I remember this because I had a pair of them at the time this came up. WebRemington 1858 Armi San Marco 44 Black powder loading and shooting 4,144 views May 17, 2015 37 Dislike Share Save Harri Miettinen 68 subscribers Subscribe Shooting No rust on my guns! Web1858 Remington, Richards Mason & Open Top Conversion Manual. and they sent me a Pietta trigger which fit just fine. Not really outrage, but an eyeroll for sure. I saw it sitting used at a local gunshop a few years ago for $250 bucks. I have a Uberti 1847 Walker. I loaded it to Piettas speck of 15 grains, and the ball didnt make it past the forcing cone. I have guns I bought from them as long ago as 2001, and they are all beautiful. THE FRAME RETAINS 97% OF ITS CASE COLORS. what ever happen to "army san marcos" guns ? They are the Edsel of. CYLINDER, BARREL AND LOADING ASSEMBLY IS BARE METAL. Thatd be 24 shots of fairly rapid fire, not shabby even by todays standards. Later David. The Tom Selleck Western (from a Louis Lamour book) crossfire trail, the last scene has a virtual plethora of late 1800 iron in use by both the good and bad guys. Remington made a cartridge conversion in .46 rimfire, after they ponied up the royalty fee to Smith & Wesson and their fancy-pants bored-through revolver cylinders for metallic cartridges. Years ago ASM had some fine artisans..the guns were good.ASM was under the direction of the Son in Law of Aldo Uberti. A) Armi San Marco 1858 New Model Percussion Revolver. There is research indicating that chain fires are probably caused by sparks getting under loose-fitting percussion caps. If yoiui can keep all six shots in a four inch circle, at whatever range you think you are likely to see a deer, then take your Remington Percussion Revolver hunting. DO use a stout load. Barrel: 12 inch PS: if you want to do more target shooting, but find yourself having to sell your wife, EAA (European/American Arms (Germany) makes some beautiful peacemakers replicas in everything from 44 mag to 22 LR (the latter comes with a second cylinder for the robust little 22 magnum). Armi San Marco 1858 Remington Black Powder replica. Selleck wields a S&W Scholfield and a 1860 (I think) Colt open frame Army. Loved the pics too. LIGHT HIGH-EDGE WEAR NEAR MUZZLE. To date I have only had two minor issues with it: - 1) the firing pin retainer had to tapped in a bit as dragged on the frame very mildly, local smith fixed that in 2 seconds. THE BLUING SHOWS A FEW LIGHT SCRATCES AND DINGS BUT IS VERY NICE. Best of all its FREE, and in abundant supply in most homes!!! Stainless steel. WebThe 1858 Remington New Army is both a beautiful collectors piece and a rugged side arm. So, they tended to go out of time prematurely, particularly for CAS. Model: 1858. They are two different Italian firearms manufacturing companies. In the .44 version, each of the six chambers can hold up to 40 grains of black powder. Two Armi San Marco 1858 New Model Percussion Revolvers Auction Date: May 25, 2022. Actions 44 BP; 60% blue, fair bore, fair grips, 7.75'' barrel, Made in Italy. Not only is that the right way to hunt, deer that go down fast and clean taste better. I got them from EMF. Fits .44 and .36 7.25 ea + 2.75 shipping via USPS 1 ea. There, you should find a roman numeral or two character alphabetical stamp. Colt's have firing pin/recoil bushing and hardened pressed in bolt cams. I am convinced that the ONLY Reason that Colt got so many Government Contracts for this revolver design, was that he was a very good salesman! Bore and stock in very good condition, rear sight is missing and front sight is loose. BORE IS VERY GOOD 44 Caliber; 75% blue, good bore, 8'' barrel, REPRODUCTION NEW MODEL ARMY REVOLVER IN GOOD CONDITION. And they still shoot just as straight and true as the originals. It just looks cooler (IMO) than the navy, walker, or dragoon. It is all nickle, less the cylinder and plunger, which are gold, and a walnut grip. WebThat isn't going to be the case with the Italian replicas, but more often than not the answer is easily found stamped on the revolver. Then you must like AWA Peacekeepers (made by Armi San Marco), right? I haven't had a lick of trouble out of it, other than losing the ejector housing screw. How consistent are Uberti cap and ball revolver parts? Had a cowboy smith smooth the internals so they dont chew each other up.ook mighty sweet in a pair of El Paso Saddlery crossdraw Slim Jims. Did you wash it in kitchen sink? It has never given me a lick of trouble, and whenever I am at a shoot where I want to do as best I can, it will be in my right holster, with a 3rd Gen Colt in my left. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. THE BORE IS 45 Caliber; 97% blue, good bore, excellent grips, 10'' barrel, ITALIAN REPRODUCTION OF A "W.MOORE-LONDON" SINGLE SHOT CAP & BALL PISTOL IN VERY GOOD OVERALL CONDITION. .44 Cal percussion. WebDescription: Remington Model 1858 New Model Army Revolver, .44 caliber. I have a pair of ASM-made and marked, EMF Hartford Colt reproduction revolvers in .45 Colt, 5 1/2" barrels. The only thing I don't like about it is that the very tip of the trigger is a little "sharp" compared to a real Colt, and if you try to spin it, it is a little uncomfortable on your finger.