It looks like the grain is *very* deep on the board to the left. From all Ive read, it seems Bona Traffic HD is the way to go on the finish coats. I worry that two coats might look too light, but with one coat, I still see some yellow coming through (my sample has the Traffic HD matte though, not satin). I have lived in my new house for 15 months and I love the look of my floors - they are easy to decorate with and give the home a warm but "cool" look at the same time. So I suppose its even better than 3 coats in 3 days as I originally thought given your advice. 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But, my husband and I are closer in agreement. First - The second pic you gave looks really weird. Or Bona Traffic + their stain line. p.s. But maybe it is just old and scratched over the years? These were my red oak in a medium stain and you can definitely see the red undertone: My SIL did a darker stain on her floors and she says the cleaning is brutal. My installer did 2 coats of Nordic Seal today. Also, will the Bona Nordic take the white oak lighter at all or darker? I bought a cleaner made for the finish (similar to m quartz) and touch up is easy if needed. @Bongo. Give a price you can make a living off of and let someone else win the low ball estimates. I completely understand the desire to keep it open between the kitchen and lower level because you want to keep the sight lines and feeling--but perhaps you should just "try" closing it off and see how it feels. If not, you can at least trivially test the floor: First. They are still drying and look darker in the photos than they do in person FYI. @Elaine Gauthier Art Did you find any solution or larger cabinet maker that has the white oak? Again, just make sure that you are getting professional grade rather than DIY grade product. @SJ McCarthy @mtpo I did hire an installer who installed my floor and was supposed to refinish it. The builder had choices for us, this or that type of choice. In this angle Nordic is on the right and Natural is on the left. It was light and made the room appear larger. The reactive simply pulls the tannins. Originally, I had declared never to Quartz after reading peoples complaints about chipping and cracks. Gravity works. We are deciding between Classic and Intense seal on our white oak floors as well! Windows for a 1920's Spanish style home in SoCali. thanks, so much. Is this permissible to use on cabinets. * I didn't know that Classic Sealer added yellow that Natural Sealer did not but I didn't have anything to compare it to. If it does nothing: Take a piece of masking tape (not painters tape). We are prepping for a remodel and I have been using my kids roll of art paper and taping it to the ceiling to construct mock ups of potential walls. We have decided to go with a mix of white and light wood for the cabinets. , So your final finish was 1 coat of Nordic Seal with 3 coats of Bona Traffic HD satin? It still should not come off. And it does NOT cause amberingbut the Mega does. I love the natural, light color of the hardwood. My husband and I had 5" white oak floors installed and we are like the look of one coat of Bona Nordic Seal and two coats of satin water based polyurethane on our floors. You can get a natural matte finish in medium- light tones with the colors mist, natural, white 5%, white, and cotton white. We have only had our cabinets for about a month so I cant speak to long term durability yet but they turned out gorgeous. Another problem was that the Bona guy I called was not familiar with Loba products, and I am considering both. @tkgriff Love the floor. I dont recall the price of the lumber / the price our builder charged us (he ordered it on his account). Nice when a risk pays off . I want a natural look as well and I think I'll end up meeting with our floor guy sometime next week to go over samples. These posts priceless. Cant decide! Our contractor unfortunately was in a hurry so we didnt test many potential finishes. Looking at pictures of finished jobs of all three, its difficult to tell the difference. Can two finish coats be done in a day or should there be a day between all 3 coats? Press it very hard into the coating, and rip it up. You should be able to try to scrape it (drag it hard across at any angle), dent it (press your nail in), etc, and nothing visible *at all* should happen. If, Bona Mega is your budget. Be warned the wood and multiple coats of Bona products really add up $$$$. I believe they put Bona Mega One over the top just for example, but we will be using Bona Traffic HD. Mega One is a clear non-yellowing finish. I think they are some discussions on houzz regarding that. @skru33 Thanks! Every client after that training will pay extra for his/her expertise. That 'fit' can include their ability to communicate. Looking at your photos, I love the look of your kitchen. It is engineered 7 - to be finished on site. The bleaching added to the cost and another opportunity for something to go wrong. (Plus, the Rubio, the longer it sat there, the more tannins it pulled.) The matte helps scratches blend. Working Bona Traffic is 10x harder than off the shelf stuff. The cabinets were custom and all paint is SW- Pure White. Two coats of Bona Traffic HD Commercial Matte This is a higher cost process, since it is a top of the line water based poly that prevents yellowing over time. If you like to see a shiny floor RIGHT AFTER you clean the floor (because it makes you feel like you've accomplished something) then you are what I refer to as a 'clean-shiny' person. If neither does anything to your floor, the floor coating is at least in reasonable shape. Yep. His maternal grandfather, Justice Thomas Smith, had been for many years a prominent lawyer and a distinguished judge in Philadelphia, and his maternal great-uncle, the Rev. Heres a close up. The other two will give you more color. I read that Natural has a bit of white in it too to avoid the yellow, but unsure if that is fact. Based on the research I've done, Nordic Seal has a tendency to show white streaks on the floor. Question - is there a reason a floor may take or need less finish? :), Absolutely gorgeous. WebWe just installed 5 white oak throughout our home. There was a warning on the front door telling everyone to stay out. Paint them over a piece of white paper and the finish turns orange all by itself! Also hope this helps .. colors hard to see on monitor, I tested classic seal, white stain and Nordic seal as well. We have one big space kitchen, then dining area with doors to exterior, then the family room. I have found some great inspirational pictures. I adore the light color, but every little water spot shows, or a splash of spilled coffee. If you think of the paint color of your cabinets.pass it on please. If that does something, it's busted, you don't need to test further. We got to see snippets of the finished floor today, and we love what we see. I think we can make Traffic HD work in our budget if we hold off on a few things and I can convince my husband. She lucked out and her floors look pretty good. The real way this is tested is actually even meaner to the floor - normally you take a box cutter, cross-hatch the floor (IE cut it in a grid pattern), and then put the tape on it and rip it up. Erfahren Sie hierzu mehr in der Houzz Cookie-Richtlinie. ISO something similar to Hallmark Alta Vista "Malibu" in urethane, Questions about chemicals in vinyl install - foul odor, health probs. We learned a lot from seeing the color and pattern differences between the American white oak and Norwegian white oak (and white oak from other areas). The coating should not come up. Milesi Natural 2k? I did not pick our stain only from photos, we went to other houses and had samples done. Give it a light sanding after it dries with 220 or 240 grit sandpaper. They are very unforgiving and I can't imagine these floors in a house with kids and a dog. If a few hundred dollars (or even more), meant the difference between loving my finished product and hating it, I felt having samples was well worth the cost. I bought the cleaning spay and renew oil for the cabinets. I originally wanted a chocolate color but realized I like more contrast between floor and furnishings than a mid tone would give me. I realize your flooring was "select" not #2 and that makes a difference. I have read through almost every post here looking to see how to get the most natural finish without yellowing. It was not supportive or helpful. ), Make sure your installer has experience using the Bona products and especially the Nordic. WebSome 5 white oak with Bona Natural Seal and Hd traffic extra matte. The real way this is tested is actually even meaner to the floor - normally you take a box cutter, cross-hatch the floor (IE cut it in a grid pattern), and then put the tape on it and rip it up. Of course, none of this is more than 3 foot square sampleand not my kitchen floor, but we are hopeful that we have an answer. Red oak floors look horrible, help with light stain colors needed! That seems light to me, but he said it was sufficient (that word doesnt make me feel convinced). How to protect the wood enough for kitchen cabinet use but 1. So much to consider and my cabinet maker doesn't seem to be able to recreate what I am looking for. Most of the articles I read suggested that 3 protective coats is the way to go. 1 coat seal and 2 coats finish. I could not get dog drool, LOLwe also scratched it and our current floors (factory oil urethane) with tips of a scissor to compare. Our new floors just got done and we got to sneak a peek. @tkgriff I love your floors and am thinking about going for much the same look! The solid white D e k t o n didnt clean up as well as Neolithic or Corian. Thanks so much! If you search my other discussions on this site, youll see how I flip-flopped so many times Corian, stainless, Neolith, D e k t o n, Quartz, wood (for the island top) and finally back to Corian. I can see the installer has the ABILITY to do make this finish workhe just ran out of time and money because of his bid (which was too low for full glue). Let him fix it ONCE. I have it in my home. Yours looks so light and bright. Great photos and beautiful floors! Anything over 700 square feet for me is done in multiple days. Carly, please provide source for your floors, exactly what Im looking for. There is no haze and the floors look very pretty, natural in color with a light sheen. @kasmit00 Did you ever find the recipe for your post from last year with the beautiful soft "brown" floors? And, to be fair to the above poster. Sie knnen nicht notwendige Cookies ber Einstellungen verwalten ablehnen. When I get to see them, Ill post pics. Bona Traffic (original) is two steps up from Mega. If so, they are normal surface marking, nothing to worry about. It shouldn't if it's in good shape, but don't know what shape it's in, so figure i'd warn you. The above comments are right. 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It may come in other thicknesses too. I just had four rooms of 30-year-old white oak floors sanded down to the raw wood and refinished with Bona products. It shouldn't if it's in good shape, but don't know what shape it's in, so figure i'd warn you. What I like to suggest regarding 'cure times' is to give them MORE timenot less. A new color true black is introduced by Duraseal. That means you relate clean with shiny. If you are someone who loves the look of the 'raw floor' but you HATE the hazy look of NaturalSeal, then I HIGHLY recommend going with the satin. Have experienced installers figured out how to use the Nordic in open floor plan homes? Double cost any standard stained finish. As for the cost of install$5/sf with FULL SPREAD glue + stain + sanding + finish (materials extra) is on the low side. Ahhhh. I could only post one photo at a time. Founded in 1919, Bona offers products for most premium floor surfaces including I prefer to see three coats of finishbut if you MUST save money while still using Traffic HD then you can go down to two coats. Combining Bona NaturalSeal with a matte-sheen finish such as Bona Traffic Naturale preserves that look and gives your floor the I wish I had the link, but there are others that used a combination of stains with weathered oak as the base and it is beautiful as well. They are light, modern, and show the natural color and variation of the wood. think it turned out well. I also have some design software that may help with your need. The training may be 'free' but the cost to fly there, rent hotel room + food for 3 days (and lose 3 days worth of income) and fly back take money. Bona Craft oil 2K oiled floor in COLOR Air and dogs. Oh cripe I had a whole response written out and it went poof. Due to it's ingredients, It is mainly used for custom color mixes with dyes and Bona's sport paint line for insane color schemes. The contractor has also suggested one coat of Loba 2K Supra on top. Im glad we didnt go darker. When was the last coat applied? I will post pictures. Classic seall will add more tan/yellow. If neither does anything to your floor, the floor coating is at least in reasonable shape. Ryan - where did you purchase your Milesi? Or is Minwax and Duraseal the same thing? I am attempting to coordinate real white oak with white oak LVPthe unfinished white oak is an amazing match to the Paradigm Conquest Windsor and Towerwanting to basically stain/seal the posts and rails in a way that changes the natural state the least, neutralizing any weed tones. The cost of the floors and Bona sealer plus 3 protective coats was almost twice the price that my parents paid for the house I grew up in so be prepared to gasp and clutch your wallet. Light, white sealed floors or dark dramatic floors? We tried a few Duraseal stains on samples and none of them were right. white/grey countertops with light wood floor & stainless appliances? They can use a big machine with a screening pad to get up most of that gunk. You should look it up. He can work a section. The "real" professional-grade products view DuraSeal/Minwax (owned by the same company) to be 'DIY' level products. I would say he under bid the job and was pushing himself to finish (he rushed the stainwhich is why it is inconsistent) so that he could move on and make money on another job. Ive had 5 character grade white oak installed. By the way, did you use any fillers to fill the knots and gaps between the planks? 3 coats of HD.I am OOT so will post photos when I get home. Watching them put it on, it doesnt look like the work applying it would be more than other finish products. @clairepope It's only been a year - so far they are perfect! WebAn icon used to represent a menu that can be toggled by interacting with this icon. The picture I attached is with one coat of Bona Mega using no stain. They have been through such an immense amount of heat and pressure during formation that all the sand grains have become crystals of Quartz. MaryJane, My white oak floors have 1 coat of Bona Natural Seal and 2 coats of Bona. Classic seal gave a deeper color but I found it to be too yellow.