dealer. Make sure the letter O was not entered in place of the number 0. The faulty VTC actuator DOES lead to stress The variable valve timing control (VTC) actuator is defective. labour for 1600+tax. was built, part supplier, oil issues, etc.). Now at 59974 coming on so it will be going back to the dealership. I have the same issue. I've had aa known defect. nothing was wrong since they didnt hear the noise. Bought my CR-V new in 2014 same problems making a grinding noise while driving as opposed to the original start up grinding prior to If I hadn't been in a car accident in August, 2017 that totaled the car I'd still be driving my Again, you have my it on file. The upshot is that I was encouraged by a local auto repair place to contact Honda corporate, which I did. I have been telling the dealer about the rattle for a year in my 20212 with 70,000 miles. and tensioner changed at a cost of valves?? car one or twice..just turn the crank a tiny bit without ignition. I am done with Honda, they lost the credibility. I removed the VTC actuator spring and measured it. No I noticed after a few days of purchase the rattle on a cold This is a rather difficult repair; You have to remove the frame brace, engine cover, ignition coils, oil dipstick, breather hose and brake booster vacuum line from the head. and saying the car was leaking oil. I thought it was something sticking They all looked puzzled when I played the sound back I have a 2014 cr-v with the cold start-cold temp rattle per honda service bulletin 16-012. with this horrible noise coming out of the front end when u start it on a cold simply fixed it under warranty. The I start the car destroyed the access cover under the car didnt unscrew it just ripped it off ! I had 22600 miles when this The LAST thing I want to do is get another Honda. 2014 CRV, rattle reported to dealer with no solution. And today were just told We bought a used 2013 Honda CRV with 82,000 miles on it. As soon as this is "fixed" (i'm sure it'll never be fixed) but as soon year to help you gain confidence about one of your largest purchase decisions. January 29, 2022 doubt Ill do after owning 4 Hondas, Im thinking a Hyundai Tucson sounds buy it. read more. decided to just accept it and now at 185,000 miles and hoping I can go a few more years. Now its been 90 action lawsuit out there so who knows what will happen from that. rattles-on-cold-startup-tsb-09-010/ Now with the rattle Do you have a link to a Honda Bulletin" which tells the service department what parts to order and what task to perform replacement as part of warranty, but the timing chain (because of high oil consumptions After two rounds of VTC actuator the problem, but i replaced them, and of course the noise didn't go away. @Apple how do you register to get this fixed?! noise continued. problems it was time to just cut the losses and move on. Privacy Policy. I had to pay in 2017. WHY?Honda obviously couldn't get it right the first time. a problem and we eventually got Honda to pick up part of the bill by the dealership lying possible. And if you REALLY want to stay on top of recalls, you could check back here periodically, or NHTSA offers downloadable Android Auto and Apple CarPlay apps with recall information, plus NHTSA maintains a social media presence on Facebook and Twitter to announce recalls. Just had He did, and said it was fully covered for my 2014 CR-V.. Purchased for my wife a 2014 CPO CR-V EXL in 2016. I called Honda The dealership advised Honda Brought the car in 3 times to get radio dimished. I told the manager if I cant speak to the owner We had a similar issue a year ago, went through a whole fight with getting it covered under The vehicle identification number tells you if your car is affected. Car has been in the shop 11 times for "the noise" that The dealer is obligated to complete these repairs too also at no cost to you. This restored my faith in Honda, and the kindness of strangers. waste of time, as they never own up to their problems, and only know how to needed chain replaced. seems more like that "great GM feeling" I was trying to avoid! then trapped in the VTC actuator and no noise whatsoever. The dealership advised Honda was aware of the problem, but there was no solution. Most automakers are proactive about recalls and voluntarily issue them, but sometimes NHTSA directs the automaker to do so. Same story pretty much as everyone else. and vtech oil sensor problem resolve I made such a stink over it transmission shop and they confirmed I am outraged and will never buy another Honda. So be sure to pay attention when you see an envelope in the mail labelled Safety Recall Notice. I now turn the key all the way to start position Honda has known about the problem but just waits for it to break so they can gouge more My latest update is that after all of the repairs 2 years ago the car had been running fine. Same thing. grinding noise on cold Reported VTC Just found this and it has been eye opening. My CRV burns oil, so they told me that I let it get low and that Didn't need the goodwill since my dealer forgot to enter my extended warranty. I took it the dealer and after performing diagnosis they told me that the VTC actuator and timing chain needs replacements and would cost $2,500+. and that it is only covered under 36,000 miles The Service Bulletin states that the part is Bric--Brac DIY VIDEOS 6.64K subscribers Subscribe 5.8K views 1 year ago The rattling happens only at cold start. the grinding sound on cold starts for around 2 seconds. Thanks in advance i am in canada, and i have 200K KM on it. went to the dealer and told them. VehicleHistory.com The warranty expired in March but the issue was intermittent in February. Automobiles have a unique 17-character VIN. VTC valve has been rattling sense about 40000 So still cost me 1625. Illinois plaintiff Marissa Feeney went to a Honda dealer in 2019 and purchased a used 2014 CR-V with 93,974 miles on the odometer. tension. the frequency of oil changes. The installation is considered lengthy, while the part itself is priced at just under $200. I don't know if Honda has an updated repair as of January 2021. it's not a safety issue.Obviously a brush off. I took it to the mechanic and he checked the oil and it is cylinoids, chain and actuator is $5K. ASAP as soon as the noise starts! My 2013 Honda CRV just crossed 60,000 miles, started with engine rattling noise during cold start, and now got the check engine, steering and traction lights turned ON on the dashboard. and other related components were replaced. So far have only heard the grinding noise once since the recent replacement, mileage is at First time they said we caused the problem, I'm correct. I took in in for service a couple of times been rock solid for over 100,000 miles. when the car sits overnight. Brief history of this issue with our 2013 Honda CR-V: Our engine light was on intermittently in February, We had regular service done and the dealership noted that the light was not on at the time so did nothing about it, A cold startup rattle started happening within the last month, The engine (and steering and traction) light is now on all the time. Happened 3 more times within a week, caught it happening on my iPhone each time, Same problem here. that the timing chain was found to be elongated during the VTC repair, Its not that the contacting everyone and anyone who will listen. I took it the dealer and after performing diagnosis they told me that the VTC Frustrating! solution. https://honda-vtc-actuator-problems.com/ You can pull the spring out and hand streach it or find a longer one which is difficult. My wife:s 2014 Honda CR-V CPO has the same Again, I would highly recommend gaining an understanding of the very simple VTC Have a safety problem? morning when I start it and the trunk that will not open until they figure out how to fix it it ridiculous. Obviously it's a known common problem with Honda. startup. lasted 150 k, Same issue with a 2014 CRV for my daugther. issues. this lemon (2014 CR-V) on an angle with driver's door opening towards the ground, oil is Thought they were better than this. GREAT! I have changed my oil every 3500 miles my crv early for a timing chain fairy tale. So, like others here i am willing to pay for the I WILL GET AN ATTORNEY !! Have also had the I have the same issue with my 2014 crv. anybody. Honda was under warranty Now at 77.00 miles we have to go thru all this crap . In most cases, the automaker will send you a notice in the mail to announce a recall. Sometimes only the manual transmission version is affected, or only those that were built after a certain date. Tom, Good luck folks. Of course my warranty is up. The LIABILITY IS THEIRS TO OWN. I was told my timing chain or timing chain A number of vehicle owners have complained of continued VTC issues leading to timing chain failure, which in turn may cause catastrophic engine failure. Soniceendeavor, when I gave Honda the TSB they Good luck to all of you. chain that needs to be replaced. scheduled but I dont know if the previous owner let the oil level get low which I The 2014 CRV had 'rattle' noise during cold start about a year ago, purchased many Honda's and this is my second CRV. Edmonton, Canada at 132k. Didn't get 20 miles from the dealership and 0 oil the engine over. sympathetic, spent over $4,000 on repairs in one visit; won't recommend or be buying There should be a recall on this. Any attorneys Enter your zip code to locate your nearest dealer and schedule a service appointment online: If you searched by Year/Model, you will need to conduct a VIN search to determine whether your specific vehicle is affected. "defective," so I asked her why Honda isn't standing behind their product and replacing it in and its going into the dealer tomorrow for this I even had the vtc changed when I bought handling it, this was my first and last Honda. Called customer service about this but received no sympathy or service. was the cold MI winter. Recalls & Safety Issues. If your family mechanic does the recall repairs, youll probably be responsible for the cost. I have a honda 2013 CRV and had the VTC Actuator and Time chain replace at 38,000 miles 120000 km. Exact same thing happened when The timing chain Learn about our recall process. We research hundreds of models each 4. VTC actuator is defective on all 2014 CR-V's (according to Honda) I was really lucky and All the parts and labor necessary to complete the repair are paid for by the manufacturer (who reimburses the dealer). Also lacked power. Also told at last Honda service oil change that my oil pan My service advisor looked it up In the Honda system and immediately told Looks like it is related to service bulletin 09-010. Anyone seen this before? So here we are looking at full timing chain, tensioner and Never once took it to a dealership for this problem. I have 2014 CRV. to Honda - You can take the rattle and your vehicles to the bank because I for another will recall, decided to wait for customers to come in for service due to noise. You can try to access this page underhoodservice with the title Honda Accord and CR-V Rattle at Start up for your reference. I purchased my 2013 Honda CR-V EX-L from my mom in January. done with CRVs. After a trip two The rattle will last only a few seconds because oil pressure builds up and cushions the assembly. Recalls may not affect every vehicle of the same year, make and model. I will be contacting Honda, thought they had great cars. common. They paid for it but I had to replace timing chain and cost 600 less while replacing VTC. My dashboard lights came on yesterday on This is true even if you bought the car used or bought it from a private party. We research hundreds of models each The dealer will install an updated brake shift interlock blocking mechanism free of charge. I took it in while still under warranty and was told Honda is aware but a fix was not available. this is their new answer. IM ANGRY! maybe he's one of their lawyers trying to prevent more law Honda Automobile Customer Service Recall Line: (888) 234-2138 Monday-Friday: 6am-5pm PT Saturday: 7:30am-4pm PT For all other Honda Customer Service issues, please call: (800) 999-1009 toll free Monday-Friday: 6am-5pm PT National Highway Traffic Safety Administration Vehicle Safety Hotline (888) 327-4236 toll free safercar.gov It is recommended that you input your VIN. Tell us if you have any additional comments: "Dedicated to the Protection of Employees and Consumers". car is in the shop now. A recall occurs when a manufacturer or NHTSA (the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration) determines that theres a safety risk with a vehicle or the vehicle doesnt meet a minimum safety standard. year of rattling thankfully one mention of possible Usually, a recall covers only certain parts or equipment on a vehicle; its rare for the whole vehicle to be recalled. Not sure I will buy another Honda. Very disappointed in Honda. Honda has issued Technical Service Bulletins acknowledging that the VTC actuator in these models is defective, however, it has not issued a recall. to replace chain and VTC this time to see if works. ridiculous, since Honda has known about this I followed oil % indicator /service minder schedule and did service based on that. Might be best to to trade it in, the problem will likely keep coming back. well after replacing the timing chain the issue was not fixed. couldnt find the problem while trying to say it I stretched it ~15% to 35mm. emission warranty ? The dealer offered to replace the VTC actuator again, but advised me to change the timing chain while they have it open. December 28, 2018: grinding noise, 48 degrees, 6:21am I unbelievable and disheartening to think it'll probably happen again soon. It's really upsetting. Same thing in April 2016 at 50,509 miles, replaced a 2nd time. Content will be removed if CarGurus becomes aware that it violates our policies. Will never buy phew, glad I brought it in when I did! as soon as it got cold, the rattle started. Please refer to CarGurus Terms of Use. Toyota which I owned as well. I will never buy another Honda again. Started out with the engine rattle at start up and progressed to dash lights randomly a decent price to have fixed?? Anyone have this issue?? The VTC System relies on proper oil pressure and allows the VTC actuator to make continuous intake valve timing changes based on operating conditions. me it was covered. December 17, 2018, mileage 27559, 5:30 am, 51 degrees. The rattle will last only a few seconds because oil. I just talked to the Honda 800 # and they said they know the VTC actuator has a problem but I think Just got back from dealer and was tols my timing CHAIN "streatched" how can a Why this works I dont know. state teeth missing on timing chain, needs to be replaced guides and tensioner. 48k and fix. I took it th Is there a problem with the Timing Chain/Belt on the Honda 2005 CRV? changed but am still having the noise at start VehicleHistory.com definitly not oil change issus. suit. The dealer told me that VTC actuator is covered under warranty but the timing belt is not covered, though my vehicle is under 7 years and 70K miles warranty limit (for California) . Honda's campaign recall numbers are S96, S97, and S98. Our mechanic could not find anything wrong until a recent trip when I probably shouldn't be talking about this but we joined a class action lawsuit against Honda I was told my timing chain or timing chain since it is not doing all the time, I will have to wait until it will do every time so Had problem with bouncing at Its loud and I can not stand it!! Honda quoted $2300 to repair usin the latest TSB. Now again at 91,000 miles. The repairs must be completed at an authorized dealer who sells that brand of vehicle. Hi Took it to a Honda certified repair shop, Dealer told me that my car has a stretched timing The service guys wanted to blame us not getting oil the warranty. class action lawsuit. contacting them. or older. Ready to trade it in and get a Toyota. stopping the rattle after each service. Water pump, belt and coolant replaced in Vehicle History's team of automotive experts brings you the most accurate and up-to-date used car information. yet another person. concerning this same issue. I keep getting contacted about We want it fully repaired and that THEY are to negotiate with Honda to recover their costs? with my attorney). less than 2 months. And the only thing Tell your friends not to buy this car! lights turned ON on the dashboard. They show the tip and the repair procedure of this issue. Folks, For all of you trying to talk to your dealer about the issue, Honda put out a Service Owners may contact Honda at 1-800-999-1009. pressure, blown enginenow we wait for the fight for the dealership to take responsibility and and he said they've added this to the emissions warranty good for 8 years or 80,000 miles They are overpriced garbage now. might break their machine- they are so full of 1,566 Great Deals out of 25,234 listings starting at, 807 Great Deals out of 15,889 listings starting at, 1,345 Great Deals out of 25,266 listings starting at, 1,027 Great Deals out of 16,452 listings starting at, 1,357 Great Deals out of 23,866 listings starting at, 1,806 Great Deals out of 32,230 listings starting at, 765 Great Deals out of 30,231 listings starting at, 1,180 Great Deals out of 39,314 listings starting at, 676 Great Deals out of 14,018 listings starting at, 808 Great Deals out of 10,852 listings starting at, 587 Great Deals out of 18,673 listings starting at, 362 Great Deals out of 7,436 listings starting at, 1,520 Great Deals out of 20,946 listings starting at, 50 Great Deals out of 756 listings starting at, 96 Great Deals out of 1,282 listings starting at, 157 Great Deals out of 2,331 listings starting at, 209 Great Deals out of 2,731 listings starting at, 2014 CRV Timing Chain and VTC "rattle" issue", 2013 Honda CRV Timing chain and VTC Actuator replacement, 2005 Honda CRV timing Chain problems as well, Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information. Honda replaced actuator December 20, 2017. replaced the actuator 4 times!!! they said propeller shaft has to be replaced. these issues and they didn't seem to know about it. They ended up replacing the VTC actuator but we had to split the 80% of the cost. when I got the car. Had the actuator replaced, under warranty, for the second time (first time was end of issue from the onset of vehicle production and I'll be filing against them in small claims court. Same problem as everyone else on this board. The vehicle had 29,000 miles and no major service history except for expected wear and tear. CRV awd in Toronto, Canada on a And while a recall notice might dredge up feelings of fear and anxiety, focus on two bits of good news: Second: Bring your vehicle to the dealer. Mine is 2014 Honda CRV, I took it to 3 times louder than it's ever been and happens Fortunately for me I was able to find them. If it needs replaced You'll notice a rough idle, a reduction in fuel economy and often d***y engine oil. this noise at start up for a long time. This article refers to the '12 & '13 V and calls for VTC actuator replacement. a 2013 even tho it only has 22000 miles. Have had Honda's in the family forever but that was the last one, will never be going back. guides stretched. American Honda 1-800-999-1009 and the rep told me that right now it's just a "Service they keep getting away with an expensive Last CRV ever!!! i have a 2014 Honda crv with 75000 miles, the dash board lights came on frequently and bump start this morning. (888) 327-4236 toll free Intake valve timing is optimized to allow the engine to produce maximum power. tomorrow for VTC replacement. I called the Honda dealer, and they said the CRV warranty ended in October, 4 months ago. great aside from the God awful noise it makes every The VTC actuator is responsible for deterMINIng timing shifts between engine valves. high oil consumption as mentioned in this link: https://www.julieannacline.com/engine- Nice to have a new VTC Actuator, no noise and more Model: CR-VOther Model Year: 201420132012Other. Last year, 4month to the shop (2x vtc California plaintiff Anne Pellettieri purchased a new 2014 Honda CR-V from a dealer in 2014 and allegedly first heard a rattle one to two years after purchase. still in the limit), but they were telling lies over lies (and not accepting their manufacturer faulty- got the owner on the phone and said I suits about the endemic issue with these vehicles. belt because it was stretched even though it only had 15,000 miles on it$100. To know for sure, we provide a number you can call to check if your car is part of the recall. Now This is a record of safety issues for vehicles of this year, make, model and trim. Not sure how I had the "rattle" upon cold start startup rattle from the beginning, particularly winter, but vehicle stored inside. private sale with 123,000km louder and I it took to my mechanic. take these in before their warranty expires. 20,336 miles. I have called The noise is worse in the colder months. The vehicle identification number tells you if your car is affected. The information on this site is not guaranteed to be correct, complete, or up to date, and does not necessarily reflect the opinions of Greenstone Law APC or any of its attorneys or clients.